Five Firsts: Clancy Martin on love, lying, and writing sans hangover

Every month, I interview an author I admire on his literary firsts.

clancy-martinJanuary’s featured author is Clancy Martin, author of two novels including How to Sell, a fast-paced, entertaining tale of deception — both of others and of the self — peppered with philosophical ideas that’ll make you think about life and desire and ambition.

Clancy more recently wrote a novel called Bad Sex — also a fantastic read (an excerpt is in Vice). As a professor of philosophy, he’s also authored a number of philosophical books. Unrelatedly, he’s been to jail seven times, once for rolling through a stop sign!

In this interview, Clancy talks about how he turned memoir into fiction, how his writing changed after getting sober, and what books of philosophy he recommends for aspiring novelists.

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Siel: One of the things I love most about How to Sell is the deadpan, flat feel of the dialogue. It’s so unique — How did you arrive at this tone? Are there other books and authors that informed or influenced your voice in this book?

The tone was certainly influenced, I hope, by my attempt to write like some of my heroes at the time: Camus, Carver, Dostoevsky, Renata Adler. I love clean, unembellished prose. It started out much more flowery, and then I cut, cut, cut it down, with the help of Diane Williams and some other friends.

At a reading at Book Soup, you mentioned that you initially wrote Bad Sex as a memoir — then decided to fictionalize it, changing the protagonist from a man to a woman. Considering that the book is about an extramarital affair — Did the rewriting process bring you any interesting revelations about the similarities or differences between men and women’s psychologies and desires?

I think I may have learned, through reflecting for a long time on the psychology of one of the heroes in that book (Edouard), that a love relationship that is built on a lot of lying probably includes lying going on in both directions. That is, Brett, my female hero, thinks she tells all the lies and Edouard really doesn’t lie to her nearly as much—and for a long time, writing and rewriting the book, I had the same view of Edouard. But then I realized that no, he was lying just as much as she was, but she really needed to believe his lies. Brett is one of those very honest liars. She believes in the importance of truth and knows she’s betraying it and herself. Edouard doesn’t care about truth. It’s at best an instrumental good for him.

bad-sexIn addition to a lot of sex, there’s a lot of drinking in Bad Sex. I think, though, that you wrote this book after quitting drinking yourself. I’m guessing that going alcohol-free probably changed your day-to-day lifestyle — but I’m wondering, has it changed your writing? Do you see a stylistic difference between your pre and post sobriety writing?

I do, yes: it is much harder for me to write now that I don’t drink. I didn’t write while drinking—well, I did, but none of it was ever any good. But there was something about a hangover that made me very fluent and creative, in the old fashioned sense of the word creative, inspired I suppose. Now, sober, I have to work harder. Writing is harder when I’m sober; but life, I’m grateful to say, is a bit easier.

On top of writing great novels, you also teach philosophy — and write books of essays (Love and Lies: An Essay on Truthfulness, Deceit, and the Growth and Care of Erotic Love) and edit anthologies (The Philosophy of Deception) in that capacity. The topics of those nonfiction books, though, seem related to the themes you explore in your novels. How would you say the two inform each other?

For me, good writing always addresses philosophical worries. So if I’m struggling with some philosophical problem—like deception, in the past, or love, or more recently the role of emotion in everyday life, and the notion of duty—it naturally comes through in my fiction. I don’t think you “solve” philosophical problems in fiction, but then I’m not sure one can solve most philosophical problems in the rational way that we hope to solve them. Fiction is very good at exploring the nuances of many philosophical problems. Everything is more complicated than it appears. Fiction is good at showing that.

What work of philosophy would you most recommend to an aspiring fiction writer?

What an interesting question. It would very much depend on the writer, I think. For me, when I hadn’t published much or anything yet, Kierkegaard and Nietzsche were very helpful, as was Kant’s Prolegomena To Any Future Metaphysics, as were the essays of Camus and De Beauvoir’s The Second Sex. But if you have to pick one book of philosophy that really might help, I think Fear and Trembling by Soren Kierkegaard. Also, more importantly, read Basho’s . I also think Renata Adler’s work can’t be recommended enough, and if you want a great book of short stories about serious Buddhist philosophy, read Amie Barrodale’s (2016) You Are Having a Good Time (full disclosure: I am married to Amie).

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Hear my story on 52 Men The Podcast

52-menOne of my favorite books read last year is Louise Wareham Leonard’s 52 Men, a thinly veiled memoir written in tiny, flash pieces, each one about a guy with whom the narrator had a relationship — some brief, some longer, some intimate, some cruel (full microreview here).

Now, 52 Men has launched in podcast form! Called 52 Men the Podcast: Women Telling Stories About Men, the audio series launched November 15. Each 10-minute episode features one woman writer telling, well, a story about men.

And my story, “Acceptance,” is the latest! As Louise puts it, the story is about woman with a lover “who seems to be two different people – one loving and wonderful and the other, well — not so loving and wonderful. How to tell which is the real person, and whether one should stay or go?”

Give it a listen.

Other women writers featured on the podcast include Lisa Locascio, Amalia Negreponti, Lynne Tillman, Rebecca Baumann, and others.

And you can be on the podcast too! To be considered, send a short prose piece of up to 900 words to 52menthepodcast@gmail.com. Louise says the podcast seeks “positive stories about men as well as stories of trouble.”

7 Best public libraries in Los Angeles for writers

I want a lot from my library. A good library for writers, in my view, should have comfortable chairs and desks, wifi and outlets, a decent selection of books, relatively easy parking, and a generally pleasant atmosphere to hang out in for a few hours. A bookstore and coffee shop are, of course, nice bonuses.

If you’re looking for a quieter — and free-er — space than your local coffee shop to finally finish writing that novel of yours in the new year, here are seven lovely libraries to check out. These places are your tax dollars at work. Enjoy them!

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West Hollywood Library. 625 N. San Vicente Blvd. West Hollywood.

This library is the only one I know of that has a designated Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Area, complete with a row of bookshelves dedicated to LGBT issues! This area is the best place in this library, since it’s a sunny spot surrounded by windows with great tables and chairs and lamps and outlets.

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The modern building is decorated with contemporary art and hosts everything from writing workshops to a women’s book club (earlier: 6 Book Clubs in Los Angeles). Stop by the Friends of the Library Bookstore, career development center, or across the parking lot, Longshot Coffee. Since this is a L.A. county library, you’ll need a county library card to access the wifi. There’s three hours free parking with validation.

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Central Library. 630 W. 5th St. Los Angeles.

If you’re looking for a specific book, this is the library where you have the biggest chance of finding it. Central Library is the largest public research library west of the Mississippi, with eight levels of books arranged by subject matter!

This library boasts gorgeous architecture with a rotunda and atrium, beautiful public arts projects, and an art gallery. Take it all in via a guided tour! Come on a day when there’s an Aloud Lecture Series event (earlier: 12 literary reading series in Los Angeles) and kill two birds with one stone.

I find the Central Library more a great place to roam around than a place for sitting down to write, though if there’s a good undiscovered nook for doing just that, do let me know and I’ll give it a try next time. Parking is $1 for the first hour — but can quickly go up to the $35 max rate — so know the rates and don’t forget to get your ticket validated.

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Santa Monica Main Library. 601 Santa Monica Blvd. Santa Monica.

This two-floor library is a clean and modern sunlit space with lots of magazines, study rooms, a friends of the library bookstore, somewhat spotty city wifi, and a significant homeless population dozing in the comfier couches.

My favorite part of this library is the outdoor courtyard, with its garden and Bookmark Cafe. On a mild sunny day, which is most days, you’ll feel like you’re writing in paradise. Paradise with lattes.

One odd quirk of this place is that the bathrooms don’t have paper towels — for environmental and financial reasons, according to the signs. Instead there are hand dryers — the really old, ineffective kind that don’t actually dry your hands. Underground parking is free for the first 30 minutes, after which the cost slowly climbs to $10. There are bike racks aplenty!

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Beverly Hills Public Library. 444 N. Rexford Dr. Beverly Hills.

This is where I studied back when I was in high school! It’s a quiet, well-maintained place with great city wifi and lots of comfortable working areas. On the first floor, there’s a friends of the library bookstore, and next to it, Kelly’s Coffee & Fudge Factory.

The second floor has more study areas, lots of books — and green shopping baskets, the easier to haul your book picks around in! A city lot offers two hours free parking.

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Los Feliz Branch Library. 1874 Hillhurst Ave., Los Angeles.

This library offers the perfect creative distraction: a community puzzle on a big central table where you can stop by to put in a few pieces during your writing breaks.

This simple library has both a children and teen section, both a Spanish and Armenian bookcase in the stack, and an inviting feel. Also, as writer friend Tony DuShane put it on Facebook, “They have a cool little area outside to hang out and the aesthetic is cool.” A small parking lot always seems to have spaces.

Pasadena Central Library. 285 E. Walnut St. Pasadena.

I rarely make it to Pasadena, but the city’s main library is beautiful enough that it makes me want to return just to visit it. The big place has four levels — three of them book stacks, the main level a series of gorgeous rooms perfect for studying, working and loafing.

The quietest — and coolest — spot is the Centennial Room, where archival materials related to Pasadena history are kept in a temperature-controlled space. A coffee shop called Espress Yourself is in the open courtyard, and near it is a rather crammed bookstore. Enjoy three hours of free parking in the lot.

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Culver City Julian Dixon Library. 4975 Overland Ave., Culver City.

Though the other libraries on this list are in the center of bustling areas full of lunch spots and shops and theaters and other distractions, the Culver City library is in a bit of a dead zone and doesn’t even have a coffee shop — which could be a plus if your aim is to stay focused on writing.

This L.A. County library still has a lot to offer — and is probably the cutest library on this list. Little plants on study desks! Cute seats with pillows that say “I love this place”! There’s even a weekly knitting club — materials provided!

And the library makes giving easy: At the edge of the spacious parking lot, a donation box for the Friends of the Library bookstore sits right next to the book returns box.
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All that said, the library I visit most often is West Los Angeles Library, simply because I can walk there from my place. It’s not a particularly pleasant place to work though; I’m only there a few minutes at a time, returning books and picking up holds. Still, I have a lot of love for it — It’s great to be able to get most any book I want delivered here for free —

Are there other libraries you know of that should be added to this list?

Photo of Central Library by Sheila Thompson

January Giveaway: Clancy Martin’s How to Sell

how-to-sell*** Winner selected! Congratulations to Taryn in Los Angeles! ***

Cocaine and Philosophy. Fake coins and real jewels. Diamonds and Rolexes. Get all that and more when you read Clancy Martin’s first novel, How to Sell.

This novel follows Bobby Clark, who drops out of high school and goes into the jewelry business — the double-dealing, customer-swindling, insurance-scamming kind of jewelry business. He grows up quickly, cheating out of their money the rich and poor alike, learning to ply his customers with what they want to hear, show them what they never knew they wanted.

How to Sell is a fast-paced, entertaining tale of deception — both of others and of the self — peppered with philosophical ideas that’ll make you think about life and desire and ambition. After all, Clancy Martin, in addition to being a novelist, is also a philosopher and professor of business ethics. In How to Sell, we learn a lot about what drives people — their strange motivations and rationalizations for spending outrageous sums of money on what are ultimately pretty rocks and small clocks.

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December book reviews: Juan, Dick, and Levy

Brief reviews of books by contemporary authors I read this month — along with photos of what I ate while reading. The list is ordered by the level of my enjoyment:

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All at Sea: A Memoir by Decca Aikenhead (Nan A. Talese / Knopf, 2016)

“I am afraid that by writing this story, I will make it untrue.”
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This memoir is a classic tale of boy meets girl, except the boy is a high functioning crack addicted drug dealer and the girl, Decca, is a rather posh journalist for the Guardian. Somehow the two make it work, leaving their spouses and starting a new life together and having two kids — until the guy suddenly drowns while rescuing one of their sons! In many ways, the first part of the memoir that details how Decca and her guy get together and adapt to each other was what I found most incredible and fascinating. The bulk of the book, however, has to do with Decca dealing with the aftermath of the drowning — which was still interesting, but less unexpected. Reading this book encouraged me to be more open to the possibilities new people bring into my life — though I think I’ll still draw the line somewhat before hooking up with a crack addict outlaw. A compelling read.

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I Am No One by Patrick Flanery (Tim Duggan / Crown, 2016)

“I felt both the futility and waste of my hours but also the horror of being watched ….”
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Patrick Flanery’s novel stars a lonely professor in NYC living a quiet life — who suddenly starts getting little clues that his life is under surveillance. This gets him doubting his own memory and sanity — while also combing through his past in Britain where he might have done some things to set off current troubles. Though the ending was a little disappointing, I found this novel to be an unexpected page turner that grapples with timely issues about government surveillance, private citizenship, and the squishy spaces between them.

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Hot Milk= by Deborah Levy (Bloomsbury, 2016)

“I wanted my whole life so far to slip away with the rolling waves, to begin a different kind of life.”
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Hot Milk tells the story of Sofia, a young woman who goes with her hypochondriac mom to see a specialist in Spain. While there Sofia starts slowly taking more agency in her own life, getting bolder. She steals a fish and makes dinner for a guy she wants to seduce, she frees a neighbor’s abused dog, she starts a relationship with an intriguing woman. It’s a story of quiet daring and self reinvention — a great read near the start of a new year.

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Please Look After Mom by Kyung-Sook Shin (in the US, Vintage, 2011)

“A house takes on the characteristics of its occupant, and, depending on who lives in it, it can become a very good house or a very strange house.”

Please Look After Mom begins when the aging mom of a family gets lost in a subway station — and the family members start a frantic search to find her while remembering all the ways the mom sacrificed to care for them yet was largely taken for granted and ignored herself. The book is a page turner even though its structure depends on quiet reminiscences. The memories are at once universal — all the ways we take the people in our lives for granted until they’re gone — and culture and time specific — the history of war and poverty in Korea alongside the gender expectation that women, especially mothers, be subservient, care taking, self-sacrificing. Overall I enjoyed and learned a lot from this book, even as I found myself getting anxious about the ways the novel in some ways glorifies female sacrifice and suffering.

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The Wonder by Emma Donoghue (Little, Brown, 2016)

“A nice girl. But a cheat of the deepest dye.”
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The Wonder tells the story of a “fasting girl” in a small Irish village — a girl so spiritually enlightened she claims not to need food. The novel’s told from the perspective of the nurse who comes to observe the girl to see if she’s cheating. In a way, the book weaves a long-ago sociocultural phenomenon with contemporary knowledge of eating disorders, weaving together everything from the history of the potato famine to the effects of hushed-up sexual abuse to the religious glorification of self-sacrifice and martyrdom, especially for women. A fascinating read.

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Prep by Curtis Sittenfeld (Random House, 2005)

“I have always found the times when another person recognizes you to be strangely sad; I suspect the pathos of these moments is their rareness, the way they contrast with most daily encounters. That reminder that it can be different, that you need not go through life unknown but that you probably still will — that is the part that’s almost unbearable.”
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Prep tells the story of a lower middle class girl from the Midwest who goes to an elite east coast boarding school on scholarship. I picked this up as a comparative read for another high school novel I’m reviewing — and though the book ran a bit long, I really enjoyed many moments — the strangely rigid social codes of high school life, the adolescent uncertainty and confusion. Read it to remind yourself how glad you are to be done with all that high school awkwardness.

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I Love Dick by Chris Kraus (Semiotext(e), 1997)

“When you’re living so intensely in your head there isn’t any difference between what you imagine and what actually takes place. Therefore, you’re both omnipotent and powerless.”
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Chris Kraus, a married filmmaker, develops an obsessive crush on Dick — so of course, Chris and her husband start writing letters addressed to Dick about said crush — and about everything else. The obsessive letters are at turns an experimental artwork, parts of an epistolary novel, diary entries, and actual love letters. Dick’s reaction in many ways is predictable and understandable — but the novel’s a fascinating look at an artistic mind. It’ll introduce you to a lot of books and films and artists to develop your own obsessions about.

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Reputations by Juan Gabriel Vasquez (Riverhead, 2016)

“Life turns us into caricatures of ourselves.”
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Reputations stars a political cartoonist at the pinnacle of his career — who starts questioning his life choices, his professional decisions that may have wrecked people’s lives as well as his own personal relationships. In one long-ago cartoon, he’d implied a politician was a pedophile — leading to the politician’s suicide. Decades later, the cartoonist is confronted with uncertainty about the truth of his accusation — which makes him question his motivations, his integrity, and the meaning of a life of work. Overall, a thought-provoking book.

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The Trespasser by Tana French (Viking, 2016)

“Time after time it’s left me gobsmacked, how people will tell you things they should keep locked inside for life; how ferociously they need the story to be out in the air, in the world, to exist somewhere outside their own heads.”
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A tough, rely-on-no-one-but-yourself female detective in Ireland tries to figure out who killed a beautiful young woman in her home. I liked the finely-drawn personality of the female detective protagonist — her fragile sense of loneliness juxtaposed with her bristly, stay away exterior. That said, it seems the detective novel just isn’t my genre, even if well-written. I found the novel quite long….

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Watchlist: 32 Stories by Persons of Interest by Bryan Hurt (Editor) (Catapult, 2016)

“What is a god if not alone?”
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Watchlist is an interesting anthology of stories about surveillance — some by well known writers like T.C. Boyle and Aimee Bender, others from newer writers, others from international authors…. There are dystopias, strange machines, and parallel worlds — and a strong USC connection among the contributors, where the editor Bryan Hurt and I both went to grad school. The quote comes from Hurt’s own story, “Moonless,” about a guy who creates a mini universe and thereby becomes a god of sorts. It’s the perfect book if, like me, you’ve already watched all 3 seasons of Black Mirror and need more scary stories about the future of tech.

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Daughter by Janice Lee (Jaded Ibis, 2012)

“Who is to say I’m not God and I just don’t remember it?”
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Janice Lee’s slim novel is a very poetic work — full of disruptions, non sequiturs, and fractured dialogue. There’s a vague semblance of a plot involving the daughter, her mother, and an octopus found in the desert. With shoutouts to everyone from Nietzsche to Sesame Street, Janice Lee’s experimental novel is an energetic and enigmatic read.

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One book review in The Los Angeles Review

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Pick up the Fall 2016 issue of The Los Angeles Review, and near the back you’ll find a review I wrote of Bruce Bauman’s fantastic novel, Broken Sleep.

Review of Broken Sleep by Bruce Bauman in The Los Angeles Review by Siel Ju

My favorite piece in this issue was a story called “Kona Kai Village, Part I” by Navid Saedi. It’s about the dark side of Venice — dilapidated drug dens, desperate letters that end up in strangers’ hands, days lost to blackouts. I really hope there’s a Part II coming —