Author: Siel

Every month, I interview an author I admire on her literary firsts.

September’s featured author is Jillian Lauren, author of New York Times bestseller Some Girls: My Life in a Harem, her first memoir. Jillian’s also authored the novel Pretty and a second memoir, Everything You Ever Wanted, about the process she and her husband, Weezer’s bassist Scott Shriner, went through to adopt their first son.

In this interview Jillian talks about dealing with strange questions people ask about her personal life, overcoming fear and resistance as a memorist, and much more.

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Siel:  I read in a Rumpus interview that you struggled as an unknown writer for years — before selling both your first memoir and novel in one deal, then rising to sudden fame (New York Times bestseller list, The View, Howard Stern, etc.). How did that first book deal finally come about?

I had been trying to sell my second novel for about a year (after the first one also didn’t sell!) and had gone back to school to get my Masters in Library Science. I figured I’d be happy being a librarian, if the writing thing never came to pass. At least I could spend all day around books.

But the Some Girls story kept knocking at the door of my consciousness, so I told my husband, I’m going to put school off for one semester and work on this proposal. I finished it in three months and I sold the book, packaged with my novel in two days. It was bananas. I had been working so hard for so long and it seemed I’d never be writing for anyone but me and the wall. Then one day my whole life changed on a dime. That’s why I tell people to never give up.

You’ve said that when Some Girls came out, the book’s sexual content often had people asking more about your personal sexual history than your writing — the craft of it, the years of work, the future ambitions. Has this reaction to your work changed, now that you have three books out?

I knew that was the risk I took when I published a book with such a splashy hook — the harem thing casts a long shadow.

As women artists, there is always going to be an aspect of objectification, and a focus on both appearance and personal details to which men aren’t subjected for the most part. This is doubly true if you’re a woman who speaks in a candid way about sexuality. This remains true for me, even though I’ve since published two books that are way less saucy.

When my first book came out, I often got asked if I actually wrote it. Which was terrifically offensive, and demonstrated to me the depth of what I was facing. The assumption was that no woman with a past like mine could possibly write a book with complex insights, original perspective, and sophisticated prose. I’ve been through this for a long time and have come to the conclusion that it’s not really my business what other people think of me. It’s just my business to continue to ask the tough creative questions, to examine the world unflinchingly, and to make the most outstanding work I possible can.

Before your books got published, did you consider yourself more a fiction writer or memoir writer — or did you draw those distinctions at all? Do you consider yourself more one or the other now?

I started out thinking of myself exclusively as a fiction writer. I never wanted to write a memoir! But the work really finds you, and the memoir kept bugging me until I finally sat down and gave voice to it. Now I love both fiction and nonfiction! I appreciate the freedom to move fluidly between the two. Nonfiction has turned out to be both a passion and a calling.

What advice would you give to a young writer working a first memoir, but is held back by fears that her life has not been as “exciting” as say, an ex-member of a harem?

A memoir is never about a subject; it’s about a perspective. Some of the most fascinating books in the world have been written about life’s minutiae — a walk to a lighthouse, a ride up an elevator. Writing is very hard, and all writers are haunted by resistance. Resistance can take on many forms. Maybe it’s a fear that you’re not important enough. Maybe it’s a fear of what your mother or your kids will think.

I tell my students that there may be a time for those questions, but that time is never before you’ve actually written the work. Otherwise it’s so easy to become paralyzed. Write the story you need to write. Write what is urgent to you. Don’t second guess it before you’ve even given it a chance to get onto the page.

If you were to go through the entire first book process again, from acceptance to post-publication, is there anything you might do differently?

Every single time I write a book I think it’s going to get easier and it never really does. The process is a mysterious thing. I have a lot of faith in it, though. If you just sit down and keep putting one word after another, you will eventually write a book. You will — it’s a fact.

The two most important pieces of advice I give beginning writers is first of all to be tenacious and second of all to seek a supportive community. Contrary to popular belief, writing doesn’t happen in a vacuum. That’s why I started Story and Soul with my best friends Jenny Feldon and Claire Bidwell Smith. We teach workshops and retreats, but more importantly are working to create a supportive community of woman writers. We believe that there’s room for all of our voices, and we want to empower other women to tell their story.
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Every month, I interview an author I admire on her literary firsts.

August’s featured author is Edan Lepucki, author of New York Times bestseller California, her first novel, as well as the novella If You’re Not Yet Like Me. She’s also a staff writer for The Millions and the founder and co-director of  Writing Workshops Los Angeles.

In this interview Edan talks about her tough decision to give up on publishing the novel she wrote before California — as well as her unexpected rise to fame — and bestseller lists — via The Colbert Report.

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Siel: Your dystopian novel California depicts a dark, grim future Los Angeles. The image of the fountain at The Grove, turned “sludgy with poison” especially comes to mind. Does L.A. appear differently in your mind’s eye now, post-book? Also, was it strange doing a reading for California at the at The Grove’s Barnes & Noble?

I have always thought L.A.–and California in general–emitted a post-apocalyptic vibe. It’s so beautiful and sinister at once, and you can see why so many end-of-the-world narratives take place here. The freeways! The earthquakes! The bougainvillea! LA hasn’t changed for me since writing the book; it’s just as magical and weird and frustrating as ever. I destroyed so much of the city while writing California, that I suppose I’m just glad that was fiction and the place still exists!

As for doing my reading at Barnes & Noble: that was amazing! To read at The Grove…the height of absurdity and achievement, right?!  I read the opening scene there, just so I could narrate how terrible the mall was, while performing at the mall. It was fun, and the people who work at that store were, I should say, good sports about it all.

You’ve said you didn’t expect California to become a bestseller — but that it became one, partly because Stephen Colbert featured your book on his show twice during the whole Hachette vs. Amazon kerfuffle. Should other authors get so lucky, what advice would you give writers for making the most of an unexpected opportunity?

My experience was so strange and unexpected, and exceptional–I mean, the luck involved was just out of this world!  In her book Still Writing, Dani Shapiro talks about how some books are just successful in this inexplicable way; I believe (if memory serves me well), that she refers to it as the books that get dusted with some magical fairy dust.

So…if your book gets the magical fairy dusting, I’d say: be open to every opportunity. Go do the readings, the email Q&As, the phone interviews, answer the fan emails, write the personal essays. Say yes because you want to make the most of your very lucky and miraculous situation.

Also, and this goes for any publication, no matter what happens: Enjoy yourself! Let yourself marvel at your achievement. You did it!

Lastly, never ever read the 1 and 2 star reader reviews of your book. NEVER.

At a reading, I remember you mentioning a novel you’d written before California — that never got published. Could you talk a bit about what you went through there? How did you know when to let it go and focus on new work?

My first, unpublished, novel was called The Book of Deeds. I started it right after graduate school and worked on it for 3 or 4 years. When I was finished, my agent at the time read half of it, said it would never sell, and broke up with me. It was pretty tragic, but I was so happy to get a new agent a few months later (through a friend’s referral). I revised the book for her, and it went out–but no one bought it. After about 9 months, we decided to stop trying, since I was writing California and we both felt it was a better book, and also more commercial.

The first book was about violent teenage girls–and it just wasn’t totally working. It wasn’t ready, I wasn’t ready. That said, I feel a little tug of pain each time a book about violent teenage girls comes out and everyone loves it. I was ahead of my time!

I started writing California right after my first agent dumped me. I needed to fall into a new project, even as I tried to get new representation for the old project. Writing California saved me–it kept me feeling sane, and alive, and itwhole life wasn’t about this unpublishable novel.

Since you’re the founder of Writing Workshops Los Angeles, which gives writers a place to get feedback and advice, I’m curious about the support you seek out for yourself now, at this stage in your writing career. At what stage in your writing process do you share your work — with friends, fellow writers, mentors, editors, or agents?

At this stage I have a few trusted readers. My husband Patrick has been my first and last reader for a long time now–he can help me work through ideas and plot points early on, and he reads my manuscripts before I send them onto my agent and/or editor. I also have been working with a writing group for the last three years. They’ve read parts of Woman No. 17 (forthcoming spring 2017!) since day 1.  We all read each other’s work beforehand, but our discussions are more casual than a workshop might be. They’ve helped me by asking questions about character and theme as I moved forward.

I also have a couple friends from graduate school that read my work every now and again–my friend Madeline McDonnell is a line-edit genius and has a really keen sense of scene that I appreciate. As I move forward in my career, I see that I’m depending more and more on comments from my editors. With both books, their feedback has been instrumental in revision.

If you were to go through the entire first book process again, from acceptance to publication, is there anything you might do differently?

I don’t think so. It was hard to face all the rejection with Book of Deeds, but I’m glad it happened because I ended up publishing a better first book–and a fairy-dusted one at that. And I worked very hard to enjoy the ride, even when it got intense!  And I kept writing. That’s what is important, right?

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Every month, I interview an author I admire on his literary firsts.

July’s featured author is Kevin Sampsell, author of This Is Between Us, his first novel, as well as the memoir A Common Pornography and the short story collection Creamy Bullets. He’s also the man behind the indie press Future Tense Books and bookseller at Powell’s Books.

In this interview Kevin talks about his varied publishing experiences (from self-publishing to tiny indie presses to a big five publisher), his favorite cover art, and his long path to feeling legitimized as a writer.

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Siel: Both your memoir A Common Pornography and your first novel This is Between Us are written in snippet form, giving us little snapshots that collage together to form a bigger, fractured narrative. What draws you to this form?

I think it comes from my early days of writing poetry and then moving on to flash fiction and short stories. I’m a self-taught writer and I think I have a short attention span, so that probably factors in too.

When I wrote the first parts of A Common Pornography, it was basically an experiment in remembering things and when you’re dealing with memories, there’s only so much you can remember before it becomes blurry and mysterious. I figured out–probably accidentally–that the mysterious stuff can work in a way that invites the reader to engage in the story and relate to it in a new way.

With the novel, I was basically shaping these short chapters–or scenes–in a similar way. The brevity hopefully adds a mystery and power to the book as a whole. No one thinks short poems are less powerful than long ones. I took comfort in thinking that the way I write short prose wasn’t too far off from how I’d write a poem. And poems can really resonate. I read a book of linked poems, like Sharon Olds’ Stag’s Leap, and it’s like reading a really complete memoir overflowing with emotions, scenes, and disturbances. A story about a life or a story about a relationship is made up of small details and scenes. It’s hardly ever just one big plot.

Though you’re better known for these two latest books, I think you mentioned (when we met in Portland in January) that early on in your career, you first self-published books of poetry. What advice do you have for young writers considering going this route?

Half the time, I didn’t really know what I was doing with my early stuff (both writing it and publishing it). My naivety was probably one of my best qualities. It allowed me to learn how to write and what to write. But one of the main things I did was I went out and read everywhere–open mics, poetry slams, cafes, bars, house shows. I became part of a community, even before the Internet was a thing. I think I’m lucky that I did a lot of crazy stuff with my writing and publishing experiments in the 90s, because people were so excited about it and no one was jaded or overwhelmed yet.

So I guess that would be my advice. Don’t be jaded, don’t be judgmental, read a lot, let yourself be influenced and blend stuff together if you want. Don’t compare yourself to other writers. Talk about your life. Make your life interesting.

Oh, and make your cover art nice.

On top of your early self-published works, you have three books out with three very different publishers (Harper Perennial, Tin House, Chiasmus). I realize this is a big question, but could you talk a bit about your varied experiences with your book launches, ranging from working with a big five publisher to a tiny indie press to just yourself? What was great about each, and what was challenging?

The degrees of visibility are the main difference. When you’re coming from small presses like Word Riot, Chiasmus, and doing the self-publishing thing, you really have to work and self-promote more, which is uncomfortable for some people.

You may notice that a lot of writers who come from the small press world and move onto bigger presses are people who are good at connecting to readers and know how to talk about their writing in a way that promotes their work to a larger group of readers. A lot of bigger presses these days appreciate that and look for authors who already have a growing following or “platform” or whatever buzzword they’re using now.

In some ways, bigger presses have learned from small presses and even self-published authors and they’re figuring out ways to sell their books that they haven’t done before. I feel like it was only ten years ago when a friend told me she had to really urge her major press to use social media more to promote her books. It seems obvious to do that now but that’s a good example of traditional publishers maybe being too stuck in tradition.

My experience with bigger presses has been good though too. It’s just a bigger stage and a different level of respect. It’s a little silly but being published by HarperCollins made people take me more seriously and that made me feel more legitimized–when that book (A Common Pornography) came out I felt like I was a real author finally, twenty years after I started publishing.

Sorry if this answer is a bit rambling, but another thing I want to say is that working with small presses has so many benefits too, even if you only get paid in copies of your book. For one thing there is a sense of family when you work with a small press. I’m friends with so many Tin House authors and editors and that’s been such an enriching part of my life. And running Future Tense is like that too–a big, extended family.

In addition to being a writer, you’re also well-known in the literary community as an editor, publisher, and bookseller at Powell’s. What advice would you give newbie writers in search of their own literary communities?

I touched on this in my other answers, I think. Go out to readings. Talk to the writers you like. Support others. Read a lot. Surround yourself with books and literary culture! Maybe start a blog or something where you talk about reading and writing. Self-publish something if you have to. Don’t be afraid to experiment. DIY and don’t die! Find people who believe in you.

Of all your books, which has your favorite cover, and why?

This is a fun question. For my own books, I actually really like the cover for Creamy Bullets. It just seems very funny and odd and mildly homo-erotic. Those skiing guys flying through the air are a nice image for that goofy book title. My friend, Pete McCracken, designed it.

For the Future Tense books, I love all the covers that my designer Bryan Coffelt does, but I think the most effective one has been Wendy C. Ortiz’s Excavation. It’s so spare, yet direct. It captures the mood and the turmoil of the book. The look on Wendy’s face with that vast blue-green sky behind her. It’s amazing.

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